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team_rider



Reged: 06/11/2008
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BBAR
      #39053 - 07/11/2008 14:12

Does anyone still care about the BBAR?

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TheMightyThor



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Re: BBAR [Re: team_rider]
      #39054 - 07/11/2008 14:26

Count me in as a vote for the "no" camp.

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Smokin_Joe



Reged: 09/06/2006
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Re: BBAR [Re: TheMightyThor]
      #39073 - 07/11/2008 20:30

Out dated.

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wuverley



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Re: BBAR [Re: Smokin_Joe]
      #39076 - 07/11/2008 21:16

The BBAR is a competition that has always been odd. The average time is oddly arrived at. The 12hr time hasn't been a popular race distance for at least 20 years.

However, if the comic actually covered good times by riders when they did them, rather than next to no coverage, it might build up some interest. They could if they wanted, but choose not to.

I suppose the 12hr could be dropped, with 100 miles the top distance, it would change the BBAR, but perhaps for the better. A few people would still do a 12hrTT, some people do a 24 now because they like it.

The BBAR doesn't have to survive, but having a national way of comparing TT results for different riders is a good thing, I think.

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Smokin_Joe



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Re: BBAR [Re: wuverley]
      #39086 - 07/11/2008 22:10

The problem with the BBAR is the average speed format. it means competitors have to chase round the country hoping for a float day on a fast course, and you can be just plain unlucky with the choice of events.

A number of nominated events with a points system would be fairer. Time trialling really only prospered because road racing was very restrictive for years with only three catagories dictating a high level of fitness or your days racing would be over after the first lap. Fields were mostly restricted to 40 riders and hard to get into without any form so getting started was not easy. With four catagories now plus go ride events anyone can dip their toe in the water, and dedicated closed circuits such as Eastway/Hog Hill and Hillingdon races for all classes can be held throughout the day which is not viable on the public roads.

There is still a place for TT's, but I think they are gradually becoming a minority pursuit.

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goblin



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Re: BBAR [Re: Smokin_Joe]
      #39092 - 07/11/2008 22:36

To get anywhere in the BBAR would probably mean having to ride on a dual carriageway at some time or another to get a 'time' ... No thanks.
A points system would at least get away from the dual carriageway mentality.
Cycles are banned from motorways for good reason. The only difference between a motorway and dual carriageway is the width. And while we're at it, tractors should also be banned from dual carriageways. IMO
PS. I havent ridden a TT for the past 20 yrs, so maybe I havent a right to comment anyway!


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wuverley



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Re: BBAR [Re: Smokin_Joe]
      #39093 - 07/11/2008 22:37

"Road racing" has become more available near to where I live, recently, because a new purpose built circuit (Fowlmeads) has been created on top of a big slag heap, with money from the EU to develop ex-Coal Mining regions.

But before that the nearest road races were at least 40 miles away and run by and for Londoners living in the south east of the capital.

One of the quicker 10 mile TT courses in the country is a mile from my house. There's also some 25s nearby. If all you can do is time trialling, its much easier to organise after all, people will do that and mostly enjoy it.

There is plenty of scope for a BBAR competition if people still want it, and for the time being they do, but if a magazine like Cycling Weekly wants to ditch its involvement then it won't last long.

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wuverley



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Re: BBAR [Re: goblin]
      #39094 - 07/11/2008 22:39

The quick course near to me is on a dual carriageway, and at least as safe as riding along the main, single carriageway roads round here. If you don't believe me try it!

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